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TMA- What’s for Dinner LP [Version 1 & 2] (Jimboco Records, USA, 1984)

An album of undeniable mongo-qualities: Straight in your face, short, obnoxious yet not un-poppy tunes that make you smile. Songs with choruses like “I’m in love with Nancy Reagan” and “Suck my dick, surf nazi” are instant hits and there’s plenty of them on this somehow overlooked lp by New Jersey’s TMA. Their followup, “Beach Party 2000”, was a huge disappointment.
Instead of writing much, I’m posting both album versions. The first pressing on white vinyl with its rough, yet hollow sound and the redone version that came out shortly after – increased on all levels, including a full color cover. You often read that the color cover & black vinyl version came first, but when you take a look at the running out grooves, you can read an additional “RE”-ending of the catalogue number, indicating that it’s been remastered. The difference in sound is minimal in these mp3 files and can be heard better on vinyl. These seem to be the technical limitations of compressed soundfiles high-fidelity.

And yes, it’s totally anal to spend so much time ripping these two albums with so little effect. But what can I do.

Have a good new year y’all.

What’s for Dinner? (first version).zip

What’s for Dinner? (second version).zip

18 Comments

  1. Thomas

    Oh boy. Never saw the b/w-version. Darn. Bought the colored one back in the day. Another recommendation by Tom Sasquatch. Never got too much into it, though. Actually, I did like the second album much better. But for the hell of me, I can’t remember how it sounded – while I still have a pretty good recollection how “What’s for Dinner” was like. I’ll give it another spin. Or do we have to say another double click in this day and age?

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    Posted on 02-Jan-11 at 15:08 | Permalink
  2. Niels

    Found the b/w version only last year at a record fair for 10 bucks (Eurobucks, that is), and was kinda disappointed when it seemed to be a repress. Thanks for putting that straight!

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    Admin Reply:

    I tend to believe the b&w cover / white vinyl one is the first press (according to the catalogue number and all).

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    Posted on 02-Jan-11 at 16:06 | Permalink
  3. Javi

    Got hold of the second version (colored cover) of this one about a year ago, since I had heard some of its songs off the one base on the overthrow blog and really liked it. It took me quite a while to find an affordable copy (there are copies of the second record in spades at really low prices), but now it seems that plenty of German sellers have spare copies.
    For some reason, some people keep comparing this band (this record, actually) to the Angry Samoans, and there are hints of that Southern California Punk Rock sound, indeed, but I’ve always noticed a bigger likeness between TMA and more vitriolic bands, like Dayglo Abortions or Verbal Abuse (you know, really pissed off Hardcore Punk Rock).
    Happy new year to you too, Erich.

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    Posted on 02-Jan-11 at 19:37 | Permalink
  4. DLO

    Great record that a lot of people pass over because it looks like a Big Audio Dynamite record or something. I see the color cover versions a lot for $2 to $5. Never saw a black and white cover.

    I think the best moment on this LP is the song that goes, “You think your shit don’t stink, but I’ve got news for you. Take a whiff — IT’S RANK!” Very catchy and very funny.

    The follow up album was not that great as I recall.

    Downloading this overlooked masterpiece now.

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    Posted on 03-Jan-11 at 01:12 | Permalink
  5. Dave

    One of my all-time favorite New Jersey HC albums. This record used to drive reviewers nuts back in the ’80s (MRR, Flipside, Ink Disease, etc) because, for being such a top-notch record (and as close-knit as the hardcore scene was back then), nobody seemed to know anything about this band… I only found out about the white vinyl pressing a couple of years ago, and I never knew the black vinyl pressing was a re-master… thanks for clearing that up. I’ve only ever had the black vinyl pressing, and I’ve always thought that this record sounded pretty damn great for an ’80s HC record…

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    Thomas Reply:

    I agree Dave….I listened to these guys strait for months and still listen to them, 30 something years later!

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    Posted on 03-Jan-11 at 04:08 | Permalink
  6. Never seen the B/W version either or heard it. Got the colored one and always liked it alot but I must say that the original version is a bit more my taste. Muffled and a bit fuzzier. Much better actually when I compare it now in itunes. Fuck I need to find the B/W version now :).

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    Posted on 03-Jan-11 at 15:02 | Permalink
  7. Thomas

    Listening to the rip right now, I’ll have to say: This is much better than I remember. I’m still not a big fan of the production which sounds a little bit too blown up (the drum sound is annoying). And adds to the peculiar feeling that the record might be a hoax – a hardcore record done by some bored pro musicians. I think that might have been a bone of contention back then. I couldn’t care less now.

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    Posted on 03-Jan-11 at 20:36 | Permalink
  8. whoodoo

    have a nice new year (if you follow gregorian calendar)… which record was first or second… who knows … > http://www.discogs.com/TMA-Whats-For-Dinner/master/237932

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    Posted on 04-Jan-11 at 19:47 | Permalink
  9. ian

    Befire I listen to this I need to know what TMA stands for…this is essential for a deeper of understanding of the sub-genre of what I call acronymic hardcore (DRI, MDC, DOA, DI, BGK etc etc)…& the cover art – sheesh! This needs to be archived as an example of bad 80’s iconography!

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    Thomas Reply:

    If I remember correctly it’s the initials of the original three members in the band (Tim, Mark and Andy or something like that).

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    Posted on 05-Jan-11 at 04:56 | Permalink
  10. I found out that “TMA” just means the three guys that started the band – Tom, Mike, and Al, or whatever their names are.

    One or two of the guys from the band should be on here any day now, they usually find out when their stuff gets posted and answer any questions.

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    DLO Reply:

    No! It is Tito, Marlon and Achmed!

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    Posted on 05-Jan-11 at 15:33 | Permalink
  11. Thanks!!
    … Derek Wills of Anti-Poser zine (Niagara Falls,Ontario) in the late 1980s ALWAYS kept saying how great this album was, but I never found it, just seen the followup in record stores, which he didn’t like as much or said “sucked” compared to the debut

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    Posted on 06-Jan-11 at 21:57 | Permalink
  12. fernando

    hi erich, i’m just writing here because i didn’t find your email in the website, i would like to ask if you could rip the agathocles ep “cold as ice” that have the grauzone’s eisbaer cover on it, it’s almost impossible to find it here in brazil, thanx a lot. waiting for an answer. thanx.

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    Posted on 07-Jan-11 at 00:40 | Permalink
  13. eddie

    All you record collectors ever talk about is the rarity of the vinyl such as etchings, color, and type of glue used to hold the cover together! None of you ever talk about the music!

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    Admin Reply:

    Need reading lessons?

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    Posted on 21-Jan-11 at 08:38 | Permalink
  14. waspunknowold

    To all who have posted, thanks for the interest.
    TMA started out as a 3 piece in 1981, Tom(me), Mike and Al. Dave who is a childhood friend of mine joined shortly after. We never took the band seriously it was just a fun irresponsible time.
    There was nothing contrived or “hoaxy” about the album. It was a live studio 8 track recording that was taped over some other bands music, hence the great quality. Guitar overdubs were added. We did the entire album in like 8 hours.
    We were based out of New Brunswick,NJ (Rutgers) where there was a good punk scene at places like the Court Tavern, Roxy, Patricks and the Melody. Mostly played with our friends bands Detention and Send Help.
    Some of our best gigs were playing with the Circle Jerks, Anti Nowhere League, Government Issue, Joneses. Did a few hardcore Sundays at CBGB’s, one with the Freeze.
    Definitely influenced by the Angry Samoans, Black Flag, Circle Jerks and a million old 70’s punk bands.
    The song What’s for Dinner is a hybrid of an old ShopRite(supermarket) jingle combined with the Descendents I like food and Black Flags TV Party. Psychopathic is basically Samoans Lights Out. There are little references to other bands songs and albums like in Don’t Pick, “Pick your king” is a 7 inch from Poison Idea, the “yea yea” in Brain of my Own is “Don’t Care from the Circle Jerks, the song I Forgot is what I thought were the words of the FU’s song “Die for God” . In Penniless “I’m a failure in life, wheres the steak knife”, Samoans Steak Knife.
    Everything was a joke, nothing political, we were smart enough to know(even with all the profanity and “ain’t gots”) we didn’t have the answers to the worlds problems. Still don’t.

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    Admin Reply:

    Thanks a lot for the background info, Tom!

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    eddie Reply:

    It appears that most of the the NJ bands of that era were based on humor and parody, except for maybe The Worst. I also believe Chronic Sick didn’t take their derogatory lyrics seriously either.

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    Gary Richrath Reply:

    Playing with those guys was the second dumbest thing I ever did.

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    Posted on 01-Feb-11 at 15:24 | Permalink
  15. Dave of our Live's

    Ok, just to set the record straight! Basiclly the First TMA Album What’s for Dinner? was a Colored Album Cover with a black vinyl record “first pressing” Then second issue as a limited edition was the Black and White Album with white vinyl record and Third issue of this obscured album was released on Casette with a Graveyard scene and Two Bonus Trax….. as you can see this album played it’s roll on the public…..

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    Posted on 20-Jul-11 at 00:43 | Permalink
  16. Thomas

    I first heard these guys on the Pat Ducan Show WFMU on a New Years Eve 1980’s something or another, I wore out the tape and still listen to them from vinyl and I think of them as hidden but not forgotten gems, a punk masterpiece! Thank you for sharing their other stuff! Beach Party 2000 is my top 5. This was the time when Mental Abuse was playing college shows and they were one of the best hardcore bands out of NYC as well! Never tired of either.

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    Posted on 30-Oct-11 at 04:19 | Permalink
  17. Dave of our live's

    By the Summer of 2012 Some of the TMA stuff should be reissued on CD format,not sure in order how it’s going to go, but you can do a TMA “LIKE” on FaceBook to see updates on any releases…..

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    Posted on 14-Jan-12 at 02:43 | Permalink
  18. great album, these songs just get into your head

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    Posted on 13-Oct-14 at 19:36 | Permalink

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