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SPITTIN’ TEETH- s/t 7″ (Polydent Records, USA, 1980)

spittinteeth_frontspittinteeth_backspittinteeth_sideaspittinteeth_sidebMore than two years ago, I had featured what then was a mystery band from Utah: A group named SPITTIN’ TEETH. Three incredible songs on the not too popularly known SIREN compilation of which one (“Destruction”) is nothing but a milestone. No kidding: I’ve seen grown men twice my size struggling with their tears upon being exposed to this song! “Destruction” is larger than you and it’s bigger than anything we can achieve in our little pointless lifes. Hats off!

When I first heard the two songs of the 7″, I was a bit disappointed, but upon giving them a little more time, I came to realize they are both really great. I first had to learn that you cannot measure everything by the dimension of “Destruction”, sometimes you just have to step back and choose a human scale. On these two songs, we hear the same charismatic singer (this man, Fred Allredge, is one of the best Punk singers I ever heard!) and probably the same guitarists too (Margaret Amberson and Greg Anderson). “Leap of Faith” has much of a NUNS vibe and when the short lead part comes in towards the end of the song, my ears are glued to the speakers. “No Guarantee” is amazing. What a lascivious, dirty little song!

Thanks to a recent Ebay auction and now especially thanks to Behjan Mirhadi who sent in these soundfiles and scans, we can lift the curtain of mystery a little higher. SPITTIN’ TEETH had released this hardly ever seen two song 7″ back in 1980 already. It seems like nobody really was aware of this. Not even Behjan, the KBD detective nummero uno, had heard of this single before and neither did his “connections” (picture meetings in parking garages or on big public squares, with hastily moving middle aged men wearing false beards, sweating and breathing heavily while exchanging suitcases that look alike).

Since these are not my own rips, the two sound files are encoded in 128 b/shame. If anybody has an original copy of this 7″ for sale, please get in touch. I want it!

No Guarantee.mp3
Leap of Faith.mp3

And for those of you who missed SPITTIN’ TEETH the first time round, here are the three incredible songs from “The Siren”:

2nd Generation.mp3
Prostitute.mp3
Destruction.mp3 («What kind of a fool do you think I am? Do you think I could be happy with this?!» Sung with the utmost of disdainfulness)

Still couldn’t figure out how to fix the picture enlarging issue. When you hold your right mouse button and choose “show graphic” (or something like this), you can see the big scans for more details.

35 Comments

  1. No Guarantee is almost in par with 2nd Generation! Really good stuff though the b-side disappoints. Thanks Behjan and Erich good joint venture.

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    Posted on 29-Dec-08 at 03:37 | Permalink
  2. M.

    what a find! never heard of this band before. all songs are great. destruction has to be one of the best songs I heard in a long long time.

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    Posted on 29-Dec-08 at 10:50 | Permalink
  3. behjan

    Thanks for the flowers, Erich 🙂
    No,it was someone else -from U.S.-who discovered the 7″
    and I got the scans from Danny G. and Brad C. and had the idea to propose it 2U. “No Guarantee”,after repeated listenings,turns out to be really cool. The B-Side needs a few more spins,sorry I mean clicks, to have an idea of it.
    Still, their song “Destruction” and the other two
    from “THE SIREN” album are my fave´s. Hope someday the whole story of the band,maybe even more studio songs (?) turn up on a site /somewhere.
    A real good discovery!

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    Posted on 29-Dec-08 at 16:01 | Permalink
  4. Sean

    “I will not post records I don’t physically own as I find this tasteless for various reasons” 😉

    I can see the fascination with “Destruction”, as it seems to be the quintessential (or expected) “punk prog” track of the era. Not that shocking a move to me considering the fast hXc bands like Youth Korps and even jock-punk like Fear slowed it waaaay down for their own experimental trax. Where has that thinking gone in modern straight punk?

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    Posted on 29-Dec-08 at 20:43 | Permalink
  5. This I love, I really want destruction of the world after listening to this.

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    Posted on 30-Dec-08 at 00:39 | Permalink
  6. Hey Erich,

    The right-click thing is only a bad crutch but the picture enlarging problem can be fixed easily:

    before you put a photo in your text you click left, then thumbnail and then NOW you also have to click FILE URL and then it`s just as before. I try to make good scans and it wouldn`t be half the fun if my pictures wouldn`t open up right away if you clicked on them.

    Vielen Dank für diese tolle Seite!

    Alles Gute
    Andreas

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    Posted on 30-Dec-08 at 16:01 | Permalink
  7. blake

    meh. heard about this. sounds like a weak stooges. at least its better than that shitty “spittin’ teeth” record that came out a few years ago..

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    Posted on 30-Dec-08 at 19:33 | Permalink
  8. @ Andreas: Thanks for the tip! It works now!

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    Posted on 02-Jan-09 at 11:41 | Permalink
  9. Jay Thurston

    Having not heard these guys in 30 years and not really liking them much. I now, have changed my mind. Thank you Erich and Behjan! This is really good.

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    Posted on 02-Jan-09 at 19:26 | Permalink
  10. chris

    2nd Generation rules!! I have The Siren but no means to download and burn the song for my fellow punkhounds. Could anyone send me a burnable MP3 of 2nd Gen?

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    Posted on 03-Jan-09 at 01:58 | Permalink
  11. Why don’t you just download the song from the link above?

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    Posted on 03-Jan-09 at 02:22 | Permalink
  12. deablo

    Thanks SO MUCH for this !

    I have The Siren LP and to these day it remains one of my fave records.

    Any chance of getting the 391 songs one of these days (yeah, guess i’m too lazy to rip ’em myself, ahah)

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    Posted on 04-Jan-09 at 09:53 | Permalink
  13. hey all,
    This is a killer site!
    i recently started downloading old hardcore demo tapes at my blog and am currently looking for more. anyone with old east coast (and non-east coast) demos please drop me a line and check out my little bloggy!
    devil dick

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    Posted on 05-Jan-09 at 12:24 | Permalink
  14. Wow, thanks so much for posting this! It’s not too often in these days and times that a totally unheard KBD-type record gets posted! I mean, it’s 21 years since the first volume of Killed By Death came out so just when you think every obscurity has been unearthed something like this Spittin’ Teeth 7″ appears. I saw when Ryan Richardson was selling a copy of this a few weeks ago on eBay and that got me interested, but the price was too much for me. Hey, I finally updated my blog with a posting of some unreleased KBD stuff- check it out!

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    Posted on 05-Jan-09 at 22:26 | Permalink
  15. What's the Truth?

    Destruction was powerful stuff…

    And while I don’t know if I have a definite nomination for which NWOBHM LP is the best, I’m going to go ahead and give my opinion that it definitely isn’t Loose ‘n’ Lethal, good as it is.

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    Posted on 06-Jan-09 at 12:07 | Permalink
  16. Best NWOBHM album is and always will be the Angelwitch debut, one of the 10 best albums ever released in my book.

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    Posted on 06-Jan-09 at 13:05 | Permalink
  17. Ouuukaaayyy, oouukaaay – of course apart from the Angel Witch LP, Iron Maiden’s “Killers” and the first LP too and maybe some more 🙂

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    Posted on 06-Jan-09 at 13:22 | Permalink
  18. What's the Truth?

    Erich, you gave up too fast!

    Satan’s Court in the Act is another contender for me, apart from what you’ve already mentioned.

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    Posted on 06-Jan-09 at 14:24 | Permalink
  19. WTT – a man not only of knowledge and wit, but also of Metal taste. Lovely.

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    Posted on 06-Jan-09 at 14:32 | Permalink
  20. Simon

    First Diamond Head! And if Motorhead counts…?

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    Posted on 06-Jan-09 at 16:12 | Permalink
  21. Na, Satan wasn´t that good. I have pretty hard to enjoy the vocals. I must say that the first Raven albums has a spot in my heart. I remember the summer between seventh and eigth grade in school. A summer that I almost only listen to Rock until you drop and Manowars Battlehymns.

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    Posted on 06-Jan-09 at 22:37 | Permalink
  22. What's the Truth?

    I’m flattered by these compliments…I am young and naive, only a poor man’s Erich Keller.

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    Posted on 07-Jan-09 at 23:34 | Permalink
  23. Javi

    No one dares to point out “The Nightcomers”, by Holocaust?
    That record(along with the aforementioned Paul di Anno’s era Maiden Lps, Motörhead or Diamond Head) is one of my favorite Heavy Metal albums (more than the equally impressive, but more in a Operatic and epic manner, Angelwitch), and I’d swear that it was on your “on heavy rotation” thing some time ago, Erich, correct me if I’m wrong…

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    Posted on 08-Jan-09 at 03:17 | Permalink
  24. I never dug the “Nightcomers” album as a whole THAT much, Javi. I used to love the EP, but I must confess that if I have to sit through the entire “HM Mania” once more, I’ll start crying. Holocaust, AIIZ and a few other bands of the era don’t mean to me anymore what they used to.
    Sure, all these records you mentioned have been heavily rotated on this blog as well as in my home for soon 30 years now …. (crazy when you think of it).

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    Posted on 08-Jan-09 at 06:47 | Permalink
  25. Guess I’m a little late, but as for Spittin Teeth’s Destruction I’d say “Not quite” – he sounds way too much like a wannabe actor. Not quite the revelation, a rather unpleasent experience actually. I’ll have to stay with the Wipers.
    Erleuchtung hab ich allerdings auch schon mal auf deinem Blog gefunden – nämlich mit dem schweizer Stoff, den du vor einer langen, langen Weile gepostet hast – TNT, Sperma, Nasal Boys – ein verspätetes Dankeschön dafür.

    I remember a while ago someone asked Erich, if he knew anything about the austrian scene . Erich didn’t want to know, quite rightly so, but I think Kurort or Those Who Survived The Plague are always worth a listen. So if anyone’s still interested in austrian HC then hop on over to my little measly blog http://bruderschaftdesschlafes.blogspot.com
    and follow the “Austria” tags. Thanks.

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    Posted on 09-Jan-09 at 07:56 | Permalink
  26. Thanks for posting this Spittin’ Teeth 7″- this is what mp3 blogs are for- to post rare stuff instead of those crummy ones that post common crap like Exploited LP’s or whatever. Speaking of that Siren comp LP would you please post the entire LP instead of just the Spittin’ Teeth tracks? My taped copy is pretty crummy, and I would love to have clean rips of the 391 tracks from it especially.

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    Posted on 23-Jan-09 at 05:57 | Permalink
  27. Yes, Tony – I will do that, if nobody does it before I come round posting it. You will get another super great comp in the next post 🙂

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    Posted on 23-Jan-09 at 06:01 | Permalink
  28. Sounds good, thanks!

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    Posted on 24-Jan-09 at 10:52 | Permalink
  29. Bax

    Wow I haven’t heard this stuff since 1980 when Brad Collins played it on his radio show. I was beginning to believe it never really existed. These guys were a great band. If you like this stuff you should really hunt down the Boards CD. They were around at the same time or just as Spittin’ Teeth were falling apart. They are even better than this stuff. Someone should upload the horrible Angle 7″ if they have it. Or even the Atheists demo. Years ago I ran into Margaret from S.T. she told me the singer had a ton of these 7″ hanging in his basement. Wish I could get just one of those. This copy is a little rough, but hey, I ain’t complaining. Thanks!!!! You made my day.

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    Posted on 02-Mar-09 at 19:43 | Permalink
  30. b e h j a n

    “BAX”, you mention BOARDS CD,the ANGLE 7″ and the ATHEISTS demo (know one song of ´em from a MYSTIC comp.LP). Can you tell a bit more about those bands above or/and know a site that deals with the early SLC (Utah in general) Punk and New Wave scene? I can´t find anything via google. Thanks,BAX !

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    Posted on 10-Mar-09 at 03:46 | Permalink
  31. fugu

    No Guarantee is a fucking amazing tune.

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    Posted on 12-Apr-09 at 01:15 | Permalink
  32. Asher

    Actually I really love “Leap Of Faith.” Seems like a lot of people weren’t too taken with it but I think it gets under the skin.

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    Posted on 15-Nov-10 at 19:45 | Permalink
  33. Doug

    I just uploaded to YouTube an 8 minute mini-documentary on Spittin’ Teeth that was originally broadcast on KUTV (Salt Lake City) c. 1979 or 1980. I was friends with the lead guitar player during the 1980s and early 1990s. He had a copy of this program on a U-Matic tape and I was able to convert it for him to VHS in the mid 1980s, and that’s where this video came from.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTpnteKMDGU

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    Admin Reply:

    Great! Thanks a lot Doug!!

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    Robbie Fields Reply:

    Doug,

    The video clip is amazing. You are to be saluted!

    I know it’s 20+ years ago, but did the guitar player ever explain why they just disappeared?

    Robbie

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    Posted on 26-Nov-11 at 23:32 | Permalink
  34. Doug

    From what I can remember (it’s been about 30 years since Greg Adams first told me), all of the band’s energy had been spent in pursuit of a record contract (the video clip bears this out) and the week when the band was supposed to sign with Warner Bros. – they broke up. At the time this happened, the band members claimed they had grown tired of each other. With maybe 10 years of hindsight, he later told me that what really happened was they were very young and immature, and thought if it was that easy to get a record contract … it would happen again. Unfortunately you can’t catch lightning in a bottle. As far as I know, none of the band members ever came close to “making it” again. I seem to recall there was a half-hearted effort to get some of the band together again in the mid 1980s, but nothing ever came of it. It’s a sad story that’s all too common.

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    Robbie Fields Reply:

    Once again, thanks Doug for educating us!

    I “think” they saw me on their way out of town and just handed me the tapes. As I recall, Black Flag had directed them to me. They kept their song publishing which showed they were not total innocents. On the other hand, their designated music publisher, Golden Tablets Music (geddit?) is defunct or never properly functioned.

    Another set of recordings I picked up along similar lines was “Levi & The Rockats: Live at The Louisiana Hayride”. The producer was leaving town with his unsold (to a major) product and I just happened to meet him at breakfast that day.

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    Jim Reply:

    Robbie, it’s Jim, the bass player for Spittin’ Teeth. It’s been a long time. Last time you and I talked was in your apartment just after Siren had been released.

    Just to correct a couple of things. The band broke up the night we heard we didn’t get the Warner Brothers contract. We were in the running (we were told we were one of 5 bands being considered for two contracts), but when we found out we didn’t get it, we were disheartened. There had been strains already in the band, having to do with artistic differences, some personality differences, and the fact that we were all tired of trying to make it in the late 70s LA punk environment. The night we heard about the contract, we had a show at Madame Wong’s (in Santa Monica) with Elton John’s backup band. It was a big show for us, but we weren’t on our game. It was the last time we performed.

    Also – Golden Tablets Music was our little joke. It never existed.

    Doug – if you read this. Thanks for posting the documentary. I hadn’t seen it since 1979.

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    Eddy Bakker Reply:

    I knew your drummer Jorgen Argyle. He was a real nice cat. Out of Coalville, Utah originally I believe. We had a lot of fun doing drugs, partying with our other buddies Kim, Mark Dave and ‘Red’ Jay etc. while we all lived in Salt Lake City at that time. Jorgen also had a fine vinyl collection if I recall. We all went our separate ways in about 1978. I saw them play once in SLC and they were angry and full of attitude! Long live the ‘Teeth’! Eddy Bakker.

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    Posted on 29-Nov-11 at 03:36 | Permalink
  35. Doug

    Forgot to mention I have an audiocassette with three unreleased Spittin’ Teeth songs. Hmmmmmmmmm …..

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    Robbie Fields Reply:

    Interesting that on the single release, they misspell Black Flagg (sic). Maybe Robin (sic) is also misspelt!

    A blog like this is an excellent way to disseminate worthy but highly obscure music.

    As the band did not bother to go through with their plans for Golden Tablets Music (ASCAP), it is highly unlikely they have ever seen a penny or will see anything for their European popularity.

    If one or more of Poulton, Johnson or Alldredge will contact me, we can get their songs registered for royalty collection and organize a digital release of all their material.

    For the sake of posterity …

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    Ron Reply:

    I saw the band in Salt Lake City, as I knew Jim Poulton. They were great and it’s so good to hear the music again. When they were on live that passion was mirrored by razor sharp insight into the times. Anyway, I believe that was the Jim who replied above – a philosophy grad student at the U of U turned punk bassist. Still remember discussing Gravity’s Rainbow with him. Fer sure I’d love to have a copy of anything they recorded.

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    Posted on 29-Nov-11 at 04:05 | Permalink

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