I guess they never really read Nietzsche (like all Punk, Metal et al bands refering to nihilism actually have emo-lyrics), but what the hell. Something for the whole family here: Idiosyncratic, hateful, idiotic – I love it! N.Y.’s NIHILISTICS were, along with say the MISFITS, one of the few Punk bands who put a lot of energy into what would be called corporate identity today. Remember the photos on the back of the essential first LP? Of course, you might say, we also remember NIHILISTICS for shamelessly stealing other people’s art and then, there are the german nihilists in “The big Lebowski”. Granted. But this first 7″ by the fellas sure remains impressive (and the first LP is even better!). I find it so great when the bass player just keeps playing a different song, the drummer beats the 4/4 shit outta his kit, the guitarist’s eyes are fixed to the neck of his instrument and the singer goes ape. Fantastic, this is art to me. Good bad music!
After Death.mp3
You’re to blame.mp3
No Friends.mp3
Love and Kisses.mp3
Kill yourself.mp3
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Out of control yet in control genius music. And the lyrics! Wow! You’re To Blame feels like it could’ve been written by Rob Noxious.
“i’ll not handle responsability even if it’s mine”
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To me these are the definitive versions of these songs. They did a much better job on them here than on the 12″. I love this 7″!
Now why, even after it’s been pointed out to you that Murder is in fact a Nihilistics song, do you still insist that they stole it?
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Great EP but their LP is legendary! I bought the LP when it came out in ’83 and it had a booklet that contained an interview with the band, gig reviews, and a bio on the band. It also had politicized, dark sentiments on society. I assumed it was written by the singer. I loaned the record to a friend of mine but held on to the booklet and his fucking dog scratched it up. He gave me his Agnostic Front EP and Cause For Alarm Ep as compensation. As for the booklet, I lost it when I moved back to L.A. from Seattle in ’93.
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I remember in the interview the bass player said he worked in a cemetary and the singer said he worked in a hospital morgue. They said they chose those jobs because they hate being around people. No wonder they had such dark, intelligible insights!
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I love this record, and the LP. I was a bit late checking them out, finally doing so after hearing RUPTURE’s version of “Love and Kisses”. Everything else I heard of theirs was awful.
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and you believed the stories eddie huh? I went to school with the singer. he was a perfectly normal funny bloke with girl problems. that’s it. haha.
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Hateing being around people and playing in a band – makes sense, somehow.
Mike: The Nihilistics clearly stole from Suspense. No question.
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The BEATLES stole “She loves you” from me (my dad wrote it in 1941).
Great wreckchord! Thank you for posting this. I think I’ll have to buy me the reissued LP.
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One nasty little piece of vinyl! Got the 13th anniversary re-issue & it blew me away then. Took me forever to get the LP (also the re-ish) & I haven’t listened to that for a while. Time to break that out! Can’t get anymore anti-positive youth if they tried.
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That intro tune on the LP is one of the most ridiculously awesome things I’ve heard.
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Anyone know if the reissue of the LP came with the booklet as well? I’d buy it just to have that booklet again–that interview was hilarious. Another Nihilistics rip-off: the song “Pal O’ Mine” from the 1st LP sounds like Genocide’s “Gonna Fight” on the MIA / Genocide split LP from 1982. Surprised those guys aren’t emailing you death threats for posting this for free.
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Well, if they don’t want this here, they only need to send a mail and I take it down. A death threat would be nice though.
Gotta compare the two songs mentioned; thanks for the hint, Mr. Poopy! This could become a real Punk Watergate here!
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Hey MrPoopy!
I have the re-ish of the LP & I can confirm that the booklet is included!
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the vinyl reissue from 2002 by Mad At The World Records came with the complete booklet.
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I find that impossible that the booklet is reissued with the LP.
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Haha, same here, Eddie. Why do these fucking reissues have all the stuff that actually came with the original presses? What is the sense in buying originals then. Man.
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I thought Visionary was the Nihilistics label–someone else reissued LP #1? I guess these guys still play out and are still as inept at their instruments as they are on this 7″–which is to their credit!
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GREATEST RECORD EVER MADE!!! i love how they got the goat to make noise perfectly at the beginning of “no friends”. Ron Rancid once told me how/why that “noise” is their, but i prefer to say its a goat. he also once bought 2 Born Against eps off me on eBay, but i promised i wouldnt tell anybody so i couldnt tarnish his image…
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man, i always thought that this came out in 1979 the guy who posted this at 7 inch punk also typed 1979 release year what gives? by the way the visionary records guys still owe me a nihilistics tee from way back what a bunch of shit talkers those guys!
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Classic record, classic band. I love the shit they talk on the WNYU interview they did- “put down your stupid skateboard, prop up a mirror and curse n throw rocks at yourselves you dorks!”
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I was the original guitarist. Mike (the bassist) and I formed the band in my mother’s basement in the summer of 1980. I know this is impossible to prove but it was also me that came up with the name The Nihilistics. It was from a book about Existentialism I stole from a Salvation Army (I was so broke I stole from a goddamn Salvation Army).
Mike and I use to hang a cheap crap microphone from the basement ceiling, plug it into one of those Panasonic cassette recorders and bang away on songs like “Grandmas Are Made For Kicking”. We met Ron at a club called Legz in Valley Stream, Long Island. Then we spent probably half a year going through drummers, one worst than the next. Until we found Troy.
The Nihilistics are still around, still playing. Ron kept things going. Last time I saw them (summer of 2006) in Asbury Park, NJ, Troy was back in the band, which surprised the shit out of me. I haven’t spoken with Mike in years.
About this EP: it was recorded at the Bad Brains studio on Avenue A (or was it Ave. B?). There was a ton of pot-smoking going on during the recording but not by us. We drank beer and smoked cheap cigars. The session took less than 3 hours and probably cost $200. One of the Dead Boys was present while we were recording. I think it was Jeff Magnum. The picture on the back cover was shot down the street from where I lived, at a house that had just about burned down months before. Mike’s girlfriend Sandy took the picture and designed the logo.
Man, I wish I had written this stuff down at the time, kept a journal. The details leave you as time rolls on. I was glad to be part of the whole NYC scene but The Nihilistics never considered themselves hardcore, just punk. And we got a lot of shit for being from Long Island, which everyone who lived in Queens, Brooklyn, etc. considered to be some golden land full of in-ground swimming pools and shit. I came from a blue collar background and like so many other rock fans listening to The Who, Zeppelin, Queen, etc. I was pushed into another reality by The Sex Pistols.
The original line-up of The Nihilistics ran from 1980 to 1984 when I left the band. I couldn’t stand the direction the music was going in, too heavy metal and schlocky for my taste. I moved to NJ shortly after and ended up playing in Missing Foundation. A few other bands followed, then I pretty much hung up the guitar and got into radio at WFMU. Now I’m a co-host on the trucking channel on Sirius Satellite Radio.
Enough about me. Thanks to everyone for the kind comments here.
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Can’t thank thank you enough Chris! The story about stealing a book on existentialism from the salvation army is priceless alone. I had no idea you were in Missing Foundation. Saw MF live in Switzerland or Germany once, ca. 1989 and was very impressed. Very intense show, the non-metal way of the musical apocalypse. Cheers Chris!
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is chris a born again christian or purging his soul?
sounds like self promotion and bs to me?
hey nitsche where is that fucked up singer ronnie from?
that guy went to school and got girls?
what girl would be with him?
didnt the bass player die?
man i gotta tell ya i love that band.
then now forever.
i love the fuck guns and roses cd.
reading these post make it all the better.
is chris the admin person here or are they lovers?
mary.
heheheheheheh
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“Pauls Mary” = the same guy who just left a comment in “Great Punk Rock Scams”. Must be a Nihilistics member, haha.
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I just saw the Nihihlistics and the Freeze at the Knitting Factory. Freeze was great, Nihilistics over the top and totally insane for guys of that age. I’m 44 and remember seeing both bands a few times in the 80′s at cb’s. They got to be in thier 50′s?. Kung Foo were great as well. But to me te Nihilistics sound great, have the same message, are political-social-demented and in a way are a parody of themselves. Kinda like Elvis before he died.
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this is a way cool thing about the nihilistics.
im just gettin into them
http://altpress.com/askthatguy/56.htm
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yer just gittin into dem. dey gunna get into u. i bee a fan 4 yeers.
greetist punc band eva.
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this is ronnie rancid, im going to kil you all because i am ronnie rancid and garbage and a homo and a dead corpse fucker and cant get girls and i want to die and i play in the nihilistics and i was a drug dealer and i was a prostitute and i drive a hearse and i beat people up and i am a mental patient and i take drugs to keep my mind straight and i hate myself and i fucked my momma and i jerk off all the time and people blow me all the time and i smell girls assses and i have sex with childrens and i an i and i am me and i am ronnie rancid and i make losts off money from my band and i cant get a erection and i hate the world and i smell and i make sex movies and i smell and i have rotten teeth and i fuck the band guys in the assses and i am a washed up punk star and i am hated by everyone and i am a pedofile and i am a looser and i am very old am in shit books and i am a whore and i drive a big hearse and i have a big car and i am stupid and i have mental issues and i take mental issue drugs and i pop pills and i drink to much and i have a loud mouth and i steal songs and i have heapers and i have cock warts and i have vd and i have a big shiveled dick and i smell bad at shows and i have a movie made about me and i act in shit movies and i am aa faggot and i beat myself up and i have no friends and people hate me and i have no job and i spit on people and i lift wieghts because i am a fat fucker and i rape dead people and i shit myslef and piss myself and i have alzheimers disease and aids and i pay women for sexual relations and i will die soon and i hope he does.
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That’s quite impressive, really.
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What happened to page 2 of the lyric sheets? It’s some kinda crazy conspiracy!
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JOE THEY DONT KNOW WE HIJACKED AN IP, CALL ME LATER BRO
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asswipe what did you fail computer lab???
it i doc’d by the servers cock breath!
your an ass.
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FUCK YOU WHO GIVES A SHIT-SO WE DONT FUCKIN USE IT ANYMORE
CALL ME NOW
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asshole look up you fucked up get outta here now jerk
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Hahaha, it’s the dutch expert again. Keep em coming dude!!
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i am the original member,besides chris,i wrote and played everything.i taught lepinski and rancid all the songs.when i left they floundered and died.murder with the axe was indeed taken from that shit german band.everything the nihilistics did after i left is bogus bullshit nonsense. those idiots are all phony fuckheads and desperately old. if you read the liner notes.they are mine.as usual. i really hate all you young fucks that dont rememer early hardcore from nyc. speaking of stealing,agnostic front took that picture from our original pamphlet.sheer terror were a bunch of fawning posers and im glad i hate all you little dicks,ill fuck youre mothers,humiliate all your girlfriends and yourselves,im still here you assholes,get a fucking job. im from long island the alpha and omega you detestable queers,big daddy bass ,thanx for nothing.i hope you all get bone cancer,including those phony nihilistics ,suck old 46 year old balls,yeah mine,have anice day cunts
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ahhhhhhhhhhh old mike if it is he, is the culprit.
one day he will wake up from that drunken haze and see he only played a minimal role.
i knew the band back then.
i bet he stole the song.
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big mommy bass Reply:
October 27th, 2011 at 06:32
stole what song the mans was the nihilistics bass or not he was so far ahead of most aholes everyone should be as stupid as he was.enough alcoholic remarks not acceptable idiots.
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yeah,its mike,i stole as much as i could from punk/thrash/ska/hardcore/metal. there is only so much you can do in a garage band,dickhead.out side of the lyrics,it was a total swindle.that shitty band gave me enough money for a house,unlike you .you sucked the dick of the system,your relatives genitalsand whomever you had to.we were thh first post punk band in the city to release a record/recognized as original and played as first from long island as well.take tip from me,start your own band,oh wai,youre over thirty years too late/ha ha ha…i dont care about proper grammar. eat my cancer you fat retarded slug.get a job loser,ill see you in the cut out bin or in the grave yard,big daddy hates you all anyway,cheers
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oh, by the way,i had the best kick ass side burns in the metropolitan area before you pussies and scumbags even knew what skin head was….i dont even know why i bother except i can not tolerate total idiocy. love and kisses ,the big daddy.ill kick all your asses if i have to…..say a prayer .carve your asses with a rusted filthy razor.
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chano Reply:
June 21st, 2010 at 22:09
Man… You are so tough… You send shivers up my spine!!! I feel so horny when i think of you kickin’ my butt…
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June 25th, 2010 at 20:51
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i lead mike down the path to be assasinated by a he~she.
he is a coward cunt. ronnnie was everything and chris too. mike was a worn out stage prop. come to cali mike so i can show you a good jazz time. paul bearer fucked mikes wife and he isnt pals with him.
woowoowoo. PERSEY rules your existance you punk loser.
burden of proof is really poof. mikey lad is a poof. i have proof. mike was like a gacy but afraid of blood and never killed anyone. but he did like the boys young and younger when i knew him.
i had to save him.
i am the JOE of PERSEY-true king of mike-$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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all i know is the bass player got slashed outside cbgbs and died at the hospital.i think he was into that working class skinhead bullshit.good riddance to another phony philosopher…..hahaha
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feet and pussy,pussy and feet,oh yeah bondage masks on young girls.this my friend is living or whats left of it.
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god loves you,god bless you,violence and hatred is not a tennable alternative to myopic hatred.i wish all of you people nothing but peace,love and
introspective belief in yourself and the world around you,especially as you grow older and hopefully wiser. all the best,you know who…..
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they have balls and one member has only one.
i have seen them all.
up real close.
and:
Ik zoog hun haan toen ik met kind was. Een lid heeft een testikel. Dit nam plaats in Nederland. Busje der Sloot was daar en was zo Natalie H. Kan u sturen dit naar de band. Yahooie.
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i lead mike down the path to be assasinated by a he~she.
he is a coward cunt. ronnnie was everything and chris too. mike was a worn out stage prop. come to cali mike so i can show you a good jazz time. paul bearer fucked mikes wife and he isnt pals with him.
woowoowoo. PERSEY rules your existance you punk loser.
burden of proof is really poof. mikey lad is a poof. i have proof. mike was like a gacy but afraid of blood and never killed anyone. but he did like the boys young and younger when i knew him.
i had to save him.
i am the JOE of PERSEY-true king of mike-$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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who or what did these nihilisticsdo? from whatever i heard they sound like a bunch of pussy losers.this mike must be a total asshole,the rest of the band looks like a bunch of tired old,fat queers.its 2010 let these geriatric morons rot in peace.give it up,no one cares……..
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Admin Reply:
June 25th, 2010 at 23:58
Yeah, Vinnie – a.k.a. “dog biscuits”.
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edit by admin: that’s it. you and your buddies are banned.
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why be so angry,many lies have been said about me,im not a sniveling coward.like i said in the song i wrote,its the truth……either let me reply to these unmittigated lies or i will sue you,get you off the web .or both……big daddy,you fuck face
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its so good to be to thought of in so many horrorbilereplies.dont forget to mention i played in legendary band burden of proof and the prophets of doom as well, as a matter of fact i will make afew calls and get a psychobilly/punk band together again.you stupid fux are a wonderful inspiration,even to an old riff stealing ball buster likeme.at least in rockabilly,the same bass riffs were used over and over,like roy orbison orjerry lee lewis.since i write lyrics ill steal from horton heat or better yet, lux interior since he is dead…….hahaha
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this site has taken on some angry unercurrents/later people i can do without all this negatvety and hatred.later,peace out
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big mommy bass Reply:
October 27th, 2011 at 06:30
in reguards to this post my husband being called an alcoholic you should be ashamed transsexual my ass i’m a transsexual basket case what miserable people drop dead fuck off leave us alone.this is slander.asshole.
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Mike will always be remembered for his prolific song writing ability and his extremely sharp wit. His ability to play with words bordered on genius sending us into severe fits of laughter. Mike played bass with a unique ferocity that will never be duplicated. On stage, his presence was unmistakable – he kicked ass. He will be missed.
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