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		<title>By: Admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 12:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, okay. Well who knows, one day I might even get that far away from home again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, okay. Well who knows, one day I might even get that far away from home again.</p>
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		<title>By: Robbie Fields</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robbie Fields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 12:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forlat, idag jag bo pa Phuket!

Zur zeit, Ich wohne auf Phuket!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forlat, idag jag bo pa Phuket!</p>
<p>Zur zeit, Ich wohne auf Phuket!</p>
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		<title>By: Admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 12:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks a lot Robbie! Although I don&#039;t have any numbers or empirical data at all, I never doubted that blogs (at least those who put in work and heart&#039;s blood in what they do) in the end will help labels in shifting copies of reissues. Occassionally, asyou mentioned, they even do fire up reissues plans and thus in the long run make music available again that otherwise would have been doomed to be forgotten in the archives of collectors.
Of course posting new releases and especially such of a popular bands will have a negative effect on the sales, but in our little underground world, things probably are different (still).

Next time I&#039;m on the West Coast, I&#039;ll drop you a line, Robbie. Would be a pleasure to meet you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a lot Robbie! Although I don&#8217;t have any numbers or empirical data at all, I never doubted that blogs (at least those who put in work and heart&#8217;s blood in what they do) in the end will help labels in shifting copies of reissues. Occassionally, asyou mentioned, they even do fire up reissues plans and thus in the long run make music available again that otherwise would have been doomed to be forgotten in the archives of collectors.<br />
Of course posting new releases and especially such of a popular bands will have a negative effect on the sales, but in our little underground world, things probably are different (still).</p>
<p>Next time I&#8217;m on the West Coast, I&#8217;ll drop you a line, Robbie. Would be a pleasure to meet you.</p>
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		<title>By: Robbie Fields</title>
		<link>http://www.goodbadmusic.com/2007/09/28/the-cheifs-st-7ep-playgems-records-usa-1980/comment-page-2/#comment-31222</link>
		<dc:creator>Robbie Fields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 11:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom,

You get the door prize for playing peacemaker here.

Any Posh Boy download from iTunes.  My suggestion :
the revamped version of Rik L Rik&#039;s Lost Album.

http://strangereaction.com/2011/06/10/symbol-six-the-crowd-channel-three-the-ingrates/

has a review of Jerry Koskie&#039;s appearance in L.A.  Looks good, too.  Jay Lansford tells me Rabit is doing well, too, but reluctant to &quot;come out and play&quot;. 

I hope to get to know Erich, I appreciate the massive effort he puts in.  I do know MXV and his heart is in the right place.  It&#039;s the bootleggers that I can&#039;t stand!

Sometimes records do go out of print and it is hard for fans to understand why.  Without the blogs, Symbol Six would have stayed out of print, even though we always loved it.  

For the most part, I don&#039;t see the plethora of mp3&#039;s posted as a threat.  Usually the quality is so poor that there is an incentive to seek out a legitimate release, if available.

That said, there are bloggers like Erich and MXV who serve an invaluable role as archivists.  Even if my own 
tape vault were still intact after 30+ years, many tapes would still be lost to tape disintegration.  I have reached out to many bloggers for help and I can&#039;t think  of ever being disappointed.

Once again, the bootleggers are a breed apart.

On tracks that we own all the rights, we typically make 20% of a release royalty free for blogs to use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom,</p>
<p>You get the door prize for playing peacemaker here.</p>
<p>Any Posh Boy download from iTunes.  My suggestion :<br />
the revamped version of Rik L Rik&#8217;s Lost Album.</p>
<p><a href="http://strangereaction.com/2011/06/10/symbol-six-the-crowd-channel-three-the-ingrates/" rel="nofollow">http://strangereaction.com/2011/06/10/symbol-six-the-crowd-channel-three-the-ingrates/</a></p>
<p>has a review of Jerry Koskie&#8217;s appearance in L.A.  Looks good, too.  Jay Lansford tells me Rabit is doing well, too, but reluctant to &#8220;come out and play&#8221;. </p>
<p>I hope to get to know Erich, I appreciate the massive effort he puts in.  I do know MXV and his heart is in the right place.  It&#8217;s the bootleggers that I can&#8217;t stand!</p>
<p>Sometimes records do go out of print and it is hard for fans to understand why.  Without the blogs, Symbol Six would have stayed out of print, even though we always loved it.  </p>
<p>For the most part, I don&#8217;t see the plethora of mp3&#8242;s posted as a threat.  Usually the quality is so poor that there is an incentive to seek out a legitimate release, if available.</p>
<p>That said, there are bloggers like Erich and MXV who serve an invaluable role as archivists.  Even if my own<br />
tape vault were still intact after 30+ years, many tapes would still be lost to tape disintegration.  I have reached out to many bloggers for help and I can&#8217;t think  of ever being disappointed.</p>
<p>Once again, the bootleggers are a breed apart.</p>
<p>On tracks that we own all the rights, we typically make 20% of a release royalty free for blogs to use.</p>
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		<title>By: Robbie Fields</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robbie Fields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 11:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred,

You know your stuff.  Drop me an email and I&#039;ll send you a certificate good for a Symbol Six download from iTunes, &quot;The Posh Boy Sessions&quot;.

Symbol Six have reformed and are tearing up the L.A. scene, playing week in week out.  New CD, too, but not on Posh Boy.  All power to Dr Strange for their re-issues ... we abandoned physical some time ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred,</p>
<p>You know your stuff.  Drop me an email and I&#8217;ll send you a certificate good for a Symbol Six download from iTunes, &#8220;The Posh Boy Sessions&#8221;.</p>
<p>Symbol Six have reformed and are tearing up the L.A. scene, playing week in week out.  New CD, too, but not on Posh Boy.  All power to Dr Strange for their re-issues &#8230; we abandoned physical some time ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 06:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all the irony, B.C. Wonderful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all the irony, B.C. Wonderful.</p>
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		<title>By: B.C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>B.C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 23:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to point out all the comments in his favor followed his own posts which was my impression when reading this the first time but then I thought &quot;I&#039;d better go back and make sure before making such a bold assertion&quot; and then I thought &quot;no I&#039;m not gonna do that the dude has plenty of rope already&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to point out all the comments in his favor followed his own posts which was my impression when reading this the first time but then I thought &#8220;I&#8217;d better go back and make sure before making such a bold assertion&#8221; and then I thought &#8220;no I&#8217;m not gonna do that the dude has plenty of rope already&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: B.C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>B.C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 23:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another fracas in Good/Bad town.  So this MXV guy (who is himself an MP3 blogger of little renown, really &quot;Punk VAULT&quot; says it all about how he thinks of this music, not to mention his level of creativity) got REALLY FUCKING MAD because he pressed 100 Chiefs singles and he thinks this blog (not even the first to post this record much less bootleg it) is HURTING HIM PERSONALLY and THE BAND HE CARES SO MUCH ABOUT.  

Even before Erich posted this, he failed to sell 100 records.  That must be frustrating, a failure even the girl scouts would consider lowly.  Naturally he&#039;s looking for anything to deflect blame onto, and he googles and googles until this site pops up.   Chronologically this makes as much sense as blaming Obama for the war in Iraq.  He posts again and again, re-adjusting his argument each time as his armor is pierces and his credibility trickles away.  At his lowest he resorts to attacking the English skills of Europeans (on another blog, I guess as part of some  backhanded compliment intended to disparage blogging in its totality while tricking Erich into recognizing him as some sort of fellow gentleman/intellectual).  Evidently suffering from hebephrenic schizophrenia, he follows one diatribe with some &quot;friendly&quot; advice about a non-existent technical problem.  Realizing he&#039;s picked a fight with an entire subculture he&#039;d assumed to be freeze-dried in his vault, he tries to backpedal and fling shit simultaneously.  His pious tone throughout does not change even as he admits he simply couldn&#039;t clear 100 copies of a hot record like the Chiefs that&#039;s famous as shit and was produced by Darby Crash and was on KBD and Bloodstains and has a whole CD out and t-shirts and stuff.  (Isn&#039;t MVM the one saturating the market and hurting CD sales?  Blog or no blog, you can get anything on Soulseek . . . posting it on a blog like this just gives it added prestige and provides a forum for discussion.  Posting the entire CD might be questionable . . . but Erich didn&#039;t.)  Even after Erich took down a song, MXT kept whining, spamming, even sockpuppeting like an insane person (which is obvious since all of the comments in his favor .  

Well I guess we know what kind of punk he is: the unnecessary kind.  MXM: middleman of the grey areas, a profit-diverting &quot;cool&quot; merchant who sees punks as a captive audience or fanatical cult in which selling fetishes makes him high priest.  A shameless huckster turned punk rock hall monitor who thinks he can shame us.  A groupie who fucks for free, then charges for the herpes, cuz they used to be inside a rock star.  A perennial hanger-on who takes advantage of the casual business style of musicians to vanity-press himself some instant credibility (if not profits, which in MMVs case seem beyond his reach . . . 100? . . . but he seems to have rationalized bootlegging in between writhes on the cross of &quot;true fandom&quot;).  So it seems that, even in punk, maybe especially in punk, there exists, in between the bands (not MVC though after a handshake he feels empowered to speak for them even to the point of alienating their fanbase), serious biznesspeople (not MVC though he appropriates the opinions of the most reactionary and retirement-aged amongst them in hopes of being mistaken for one), and the fans (maybe once MVC, then his dupes, now his enemy) a substrata of bloodsucking pimps flooding the market with extraneous junk that, &quot;official&quot; or not, is there just to give them bragging rights (and maybe bag a quick buck but MXV seems to be going for psychological compensation here).  Bragging rights turn into bitching rights real quick.  MXV, you are a sick and evil man, a traitor to punk and a hypocrite to all of humanity.  Erich, it may be the nature of a blog that spans metal and punk to be a volatile and misanthropic stew.  But since you are credited with pioneering the cookie monster style of vocals back in the &#039;80s I&#039;m sure you can handle it.  You may wind up battling MXV at the top of a waterfall.  Remind him of own words here and he&#039;ll probably jump.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another fracas in Good/Bad town.  So this MXV guy (who is himself an MP3 blogger of little renown, really &#8220;Punk VAULT&#8221; says it all about how he thinks of this music, not to mention his level of creativity) got REALLY FUCKING MAD because he pressed 100 Chiefs singles and he thinks this blog (not even the first to post this record much less bootleg it) is HURTING HIM PERSONALLY and THE BAND HE CARES SO MUCH ABOUT.  </p>
<p>Even before Erich posted this, he failed to sell 100 records.  That must be frustrating, a failure even the girl scouts would consider lowly.  Naturally he&#8217;s looking for anything to deflect blame onto, and he googles and googles until this site pops up.   Chronologically this makes as much sense as blaming Obama for the war in Iraq.  He posts again and again, re-adjusting his argument each time as his armor is pierces and his credibility trickles away.  At his lowest he resorts to attacking the English skills of Europeans (on another blog, I guess as part of some  backhanded compliment intended to disparage blogging in its totality while tricking Erich into recognizing him as some sort of fellow gentleman/intellectual).  Evidently suffering from hebephrenic schizophrenia, he follows one diatribe with some &#8220;friendly&#8221; advice about a non-existent technical problem.  Realizing he&#8217;s picked a fight with an entire subculture he&#8217;d assumed to be freeze-dried in his vault, he tries to backpedal and fling shit simultaneously.  His pious tone throughout does not change even as he admits he simply couldn&#8217;t clear 100 copies of a hot record like the Chiefs that&#8217;s famous as shit and was produced by Darby Crash and was on KBD and Bloodstains and has a whole CD out and t-shirts and stuff.  (Isn&#8217;t MVM the one saturating the market and hurting CD sales?  Blog or no blog, you can get anything on Soulseek . . . posting it on a blog like this just gives it added prestige and provides a forum for discussion.  Posting the entire CD might be questionable . . . but Erich didn&#8217;t.)  Even after Erich took down a song, MXT kept whining, spamming, even sockpuppeting like an insane person (which is obvious since all of the comments in his favor .  </p>
<p>Well I guess we know what kind of punk he is: the unnecessary kind.  MXM: middleman of the grey areas, a profit-diverting &#8220;cool&#8221; merchant who sees punks as a captive audience or fanatical cult in which selling fetishes makes him high priest.  A shameless huckster turned punk rock hall monitor who thinks he can shame us.  A groupie who fucks for free, then charges for the herpes, cuz they used to be inside a rock star.  A perennial hanger-on who takes advantage of the casual business style of musicians to vanity-press himself some instant credibility (if not profits, which in MMVs case seem beyond his reach . . . 100? . . . but he seems to have rationalized bootlegging in between writhes on the cross of &#8220;true fandom&#8221;).  So it seems that, even in punk, maybe especially in punk, there exists, in between the bands (not MVC though after a handshake he feels empowered to speak for them even to the point of alienating their fanbase), serious biznesspeople (not MVC though he appropriates the opinions of the most reactionary and retirement-aged amongst them in hopes of being mistaken for one), and the fans (maybe once MVC, then his dupes, now his enemy) a substrata of bloodsucking pimps flooding the market with extraneous junk that, &#8220;official&#8221; or not, is there just to give them bragging rights (and maybe bag a quick buck but MXV seems to be going for psychological compensation here).  Bragging rights turn into bitching rights real quick.  MXV, you are a sick and evil man, a traitor to punk and a hypocrite to all of humanity.  Erich, it may be the nature of a blog that spans metal and punk to be a volatile and misanthropic stew.  But since you are credited with pioneering the cookie monster style of vocals back in the &#8217;80s I&#8217;m sure you can handle it.  You may wind up battling MXV at the top of a waterfall.  Remind him of own words here and he&#8217;ll probably jump.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Sep 2010 05:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>scrapped is a sick track.
liberty too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>scrapped is a sick track.<br />
liberty too.</p>
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		<title>By: elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 08:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i know i&#039;m a little late but first of all i&#039;m in a band jackass. i will put all my shit up for free until i don&#039;t want to do it anymore and even if i found out someone was sharing my complete recordings know what i&#039;d say? hey thanks for sharing. oh and guys don&#039;t forget the record is in print and you can get it at bla bla bla. no bullshit remove mp3s stuff just hey buy a coppy. and wile we&#039;re on the subject i downloaded the first germs single a while ago. i went to amoeba and was looking through the 7inches and i found the first grms single. okay so i have it already. so what? now i have a physical coppy of forming. i even ripped it cause i needed to see if my turntable works. i like getting physical coppys of things. so when my computer breaks i can still listen to my favorite records. so no mxv you are dead wrong on this one. back on topic. i love this record. one of these bands that i&#039;d heard the name but probably wouldn&#039;t have checked out because well i just didn&#039;t care. but now that i have the ep i will buy that cd. same goes for kleenex/liliput. erich pretty much posted everything by kleenex and if i were to dig i could probably find the whole thing for free. even then i would buy the cd which i did. a lot of bands are like that. what else is on that comp?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i know i&#8217;m a little late but first of all i&#8217;m in a band jackass. i will put all my shit up for free until i don&#8217;t want to do it anymore and even if i found out someone was sharing my complete recordings know what i&#8217;d say? hey thanks for sharing. oh and guys don&#8217;t forget the record is in print and you can get it at bla bla bla. no bullshit remove mp3s stuff just hey buy a coppy. and wile we&#8217;re on the subject i downloaded the first germs single a while ago. i went to amoeba and was looking through the 7inches and i found the first grms single. okay so i have it already. so what? now i have a physical coppy of forming. i even ripped it cause i needed to see if my turntable works. i like getting physical coppys of things. so when my computer breaks i can still listen to my favorite records. so no mxv you are dead wrong on this one. back on topic. i love this record. one of these bands that i&#8217;d heard the name but probably wouldn&#8217;t have checked out because well i just didn&#8217;t care. but now that i have the ep i will buy that cd. same goes for kleenex/liliput. erich pretty much posted everything by kleenex and if i were to dig i could probably find the whole thing for free. even then i would buy the cd which i did. a lot of bands are like that. what else is on that comp?</p>
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